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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://whiteperil.com/2010/03/11/so-many-drinks-such-pretty-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people want to be free &lt;i&gt;from&lt;/i&gt;.  I don&#039;t think they even know to want to be free &lt;i&gt;for&lt;/i&gt;.  

There are a lot of things about the way Japanese people are brought up that bother me.  My husband is Japanese, and I told him that while I would love for our kids to live there for a while to learn the language and all that, I can&#039;t really stomach the idea of sending them to public school.  Sure, they would learn a lot, but I fear it would suck the souls right out of them.  That is possibly hyperbole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people want to be free <i>from</i>.  I don&#8217;t think they even know to want to be free <i>for</i>.  </p>
<p>There are a lot of things about the way Japanese people are brought up that bother me.  My husband is Japanese, and I told him that while I would love for our kids to live there for a while to learn the language and all that, I can&#8217;t really stomach the idea of sending them to public school.  Sure, they would learn a lot, but I fear it would suck the souls right out of them.  That is possibly hyperbole.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://whiteperil.com/2010/03/11/so-many-drinks-such-pretty-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4228</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We-ell, I do think that people want to be free, for the most part, and that they&#039;re better off free in the long term, for the most part.  What&#039;s tricky, of course, is the Mancur Olson thing:  the short-term gains from entitlement programs that benefit you (the general first-person-singular you, not Julie-you) are a concentrated shot of good that you&#039;re likely to feel enough of an interest in to fight for, whereas the long-term drag on the economy of all the entitlements put together is spread, a little bit each, over everyone, so getting everyone to see why runaway entitlements suck is nearly hopeless.  Licensing laws aren&#039;t entitlements, of course, but I think that a lot of times they work similarly.

I&#039;m not sure that the bureaucracy itself in Japan bothered me so much; it was more the way everyone was brought up to think like a bureaucrat that was the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We-ell, I do think that people want to be free, for the most part, and that they&#8217;re better off free in the long term, for the most part.  What&#8217;s tricky, of course, is the Mancur Olson thing:  the short-term gains from entitlement programs that benefit you (the general first-person-singular you, not Julie-you) are a concentrated shot of good that you&#8217;re likely to feel enough of an interest in to fight for, whereas the long-term drag on the economy of all the entitlements put together is spread, a little bit each, over everyone, so getting everyone to see why runaway entitlements suck is nearly hopeless.  Licensing laws aren&#8217;t entitlements, of course, but I think that a lot of times they work similarly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that the bureaucracy itself in Japan bothered me so much; it was more the way everyone was brought up to think like a bureaucrat that was the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://whiteperil.com/2010/03/11/so-many-drinks-such-pretty-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4226</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want to make a bad chrysanthemum pun, but I shall refrain.

The bureaucracy in Japan did not bother me very much, although probably because I didn&#039;t have to deal with it all that much.  I&#039;m not so foolish (probably) as to think that we&#039;re ever going to live in some magical world where there are no bureaucrats at all.  The unthinking and self-replicating nature of bureaucracy, though, is concerning.  How are people not concerned about it?  

Noam Chomsky once wrote a kind of Pascal&#039;s wager for freedom:  believing that people want to be free costs you nothing and allows you to act in such a way as to promote human freedom, but not believing encourages you to act in a way that ultimately promotes tyranny.  So, I try to believe.  But I&#039;m not really good at this faith thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to make a bad chrysanthemum pun, but I shall refrain.</p>
<p>The bureaucracy in Japan did not bother me very much, although probably because I didn&#8217;t have to deal with it all that much.  I&#8217;m not so foolish (probably) as to think that we&#8217;re ever going to live in some magical world where there are no bureaucrats at all.  The unthinking and self-replicating nature of bureaucracy, though, is concerning.  How are people not concerned about it?  </p>
<p>Noam Chomsky once wrote a kind of Pascal&#8217;s wager for freedom:  believing that people want to be free costs you nothing and allows you to act in such a way as to promote human freedom, but not believing encourages you to act in a way that ultimately promotes tyranny.  So, I try to believe.  But I&#8217;m not really good at this faith thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mum&#039;s the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mum&#8217;s the word.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://whiteperil.com/2010/03/11/so-many-drinks-such-pretty-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4219</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I do.  Desperately.  But don&#039;t tell anyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do.  Desperately.  But don&#8217;t tell anyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://whiteperil.com/2010/03/11/so-many-drinks-such-pretty-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4201</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Sarah&lt;/b&gt;:
&quot;A great part of traditional publishers’ annoyance at ebooks is that they can no longer &#039;educate the public taste&#039; (several senior editors have told me this is their job.)&quot;

...which they do by, like, lionizing Joyce Carol [expletive deleted] Oates (just to pick a long-time un-fave of mine out of the air) and stuff?  Yeah.  Of course.  I wish mass taste favored different authors, too, but my passing social acquaintance with publishers gives me no confidence that they&#039;d do better than the market.

Speaking of the market....

&lt;b&gt;Julie&lt;/b&gt;:
&quot;When you open a business doing something you’re not really good at, and word gets around not to ever buy flowers from that crappy florist who does not know the name of the secretary of agriculture, isn’t that called &#039;the market&#039; or something like that? It seems to me I’ve heard that term used…? Or perhaps it was something like &#039;freedom&#039;…?&quot;

I know what you are:  one of them ANARCHISTS.  Today, you think it&#039;s okay to be a florist without knowing who the state secretary of agriculture is.  Tomorrow, what&#039;s it going to be---support for the unlicensed dreadlock-braiders Virginia Postrel profiled in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Future-Its-Enemies-Creativity-Enterprise/dp/0684862697/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268368109&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Future and Its Enemies&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;?  Championing the defunding of AmTrak?  I mean, really, there&#039;s a slippery slope here, and at the bottom is fewer jobs for bureaucrats.  You don&#039;t want to start slidin&#039; in &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; direction, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sarah</b>:<br />
&#8220;A great part of traditional publishers’ annoyance at ebooks is that they can no longer &#8216;educate the public taste&#8217; (several senior editors have told me this is their job.)&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;which they do by, like, lionizing Joyce Carol [expletive deleted] Oates (just to pick a long-time un-fave of mine out of the air) and stuff?  Yeah.  Of course.  I wish mass taste favored different authors, too, but my passing social acquaintance with publishers gives me no confidence that they&#8217;d do better than the market.</p>
<p>Speaking of the market&#8230;.</p>
<p><b>Julie</b>:<br />
&#8220;When you open a business doing something you’re not really good at, and word gets around not to ever buy flowers from that crappy florist who does not know the name of the secretary of agriculture, isn’t that called &#8216;the market&#8217; or something like that? It seems to me I’ve heard that term used…? Or perhaps it was something like &#8216;freedom&#8217;…?&#8221;</p>
<p>I know what you are:  one of them ANARCHISTS.  Today, you think it&#8217;s okay to be a florist without knowing who the state secretary of agriculture is.  Tomorrow, what&#8217;s it going to be&#8212;support for the unlicensed dreadlock-braiders Virginia Postrel profiled in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Future-Its-Enemies-Creativity-Enterprise/dp/0684862697/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1268368109&#038;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"><i>The Future and Its Enemies</i></a>?  Championing the defunding of AmTrak?  I mean, really, there&#8217;s a slippery slope here, and at the bottom is fewer jobs for bureaucrats.  You don&#8217;t want to start slidin&#8217; in <i>that</i> direction, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad to hear that the residents of Louisiana are protected from the terrifying threat of buying unhealthy flowers or, worse, unattractive bouquets.  I feel that removing this licensing process would expose the good people of Lousiana to constant anxiety about the health and welfare and aesthetic unity of their flowers.  Don&#039;t you care about their feelings?  

I get the impression that Sarah similarly does not have sympathy for the editors&#039; sense of superiority.  Comments like hers could cause serious damage to what are undoutedly very overinflated egos.  They may rupture altogether.  

When you open a business doing something you&#039;re not really good at, and word gets around not to ever buy flowers from that crappy florist who does not know the name of the secretary of agriculture, isn&#039;t that called &quot;the market&quot; or something like that?  It seems to me I&#039;ve heard that term used...?  Or perhaps it was something like &quot;freedom&quot;...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad to hear that the residents of Louisiana are protected from the terrifying threat of buying unhealthy flowers or, worse, unattractive bouquets.  I feel that removing this licensing process would expose the good people of Lousiana to constant anxiety about the health and welfare and aesthetic unity of their flowers.  Don&#8217;t you care about their feelings?  </p>
<p>I get the impression that Sarah similarly does not have sympathy for the editors&#8217; sense of superiority.  Comments like hers could cause serious damage to what are undoutedly very overinflated egos.  They may rupture altogether.  </p>
<p>When you open a business doing something you&#8217;re not really good at, and word gets around not to ever buy flowers from that crappy florist who does not know the name of the secretary of agriculture, isn&#8217;t that called &#8220;the market&#8221; or something like that?  It seems to me I&#8217;ve heard that term used&#8230;?  Or perhaps it was something like &#8220;freedom&#8221;&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next they&#039;ll want to license writers.  No, I&#039;m serious.  I can completely see this.  A great part of traditional publishers&#039; annoyance at ebooks is that they can no longer &quot;educate the public taste&quot; (several senior editors have told me this is their job.)  I&#039;m waiting till the big conglomerates get the idea of lobbying DC to--

Uh oh.  I&#039;ll shut up now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next they&#8217;ll want to license writers.  No, I&#8217;m serious.  I can completely see this.  A great part of traditional publishers&#8217; annoyance at ebooks is that they can no longer &#8220;educate the public taste&#8221; (several senior editors have told me this is their job.)  I&#8217;m waiting till the big conglomerates get the idea of lobbying DC to&#8211;</p>
<p>Uh oh.  I&#8217;ll shut up now.</p>
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