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    While everyone else is debating whether there are gays in Iran, this fag (note unapologetic hegemonic-Western assertion of identity--BUTCH, huh?) is wondering anew at how beyond sexy Hugh Jackman is, even if the hair needs a trim (just the hair on his head, obviously).

    Speaking of body hair, I'm normally pretty persnickety about this sort of thing--don't get me started on visible clip-on bow ties at black tie parties--but I'm not sure I can fall in line with this post (via Ann Althouse). I can see arguing that grown men shouldn't wear shorts because it violates adult etiquette. I can see pointing out that shorts flatter well-shaped legs and don't flatter dumpy ones. Hell, attractiveness isn't even always the issue. I've been fighting with friends who tell me I should show more chest hair when we go out for years. My relatively smooth buddies can have three buttons open, and you don't even notice. I have three buttons open, and I look as if I should have a sign around my neck that says, "Ask about my low all-night rates!"

    But looking decent and looking comely are two different, if related, considerations that it's not good to slush together. (Is it proposed that we go the whole way and ask people who lost the genetic lottery on bone structure and complexion to wear paper bags over their heads?) Noisome breath and body odor or noisy chewing--that sort of thing is inescapable to people around you, so it's flat-out inconsiderate to inflict it on them. I have a hard time equating that with covering up your legs lest someone deem them too hairy.
    Posted by Sean on 2007-10-01 17:47:08
    jason:
    Thank you, Sean, for exactly saying in your last paragraph what I was too inarticulate to say on Eric's blog.
    10.2.2007 11:41am
    Sean Kinsell (mail) (www):
    No, I thought you made the point just fine, Jason.

    Something else that bears mention: Plane travel is no longer a special event; now it's like getting on the bus. I'm happy to lament the general decrease in formality, but I think the cheapening of air travel has overall been a very good thing, and that in that case it's worth conceding relaxed rules and not getting exercised over casual attire. (Of course, you still shouldn't show up looking indecent.)
    10.2.2007 1:07pm
    Maria (mail):
    Hear, hear, Sean! If you don't like looking at the guy's legs, DON'T!

    No one is forcing you to look...
    10.3.2007 6:40am
    Sean Kinsell (mail) (www):
    Yeah, seriously. We all have things that weird us out, but as long as people are dressing and behaving within the bounds of decorum, we're supposed to divert our attention into that great new book we've been trying to find time to read.
    10.3.2007 7:48pm
    Eric Scheie (mail) (www):
    You're right that an argument could be made that "grown men shouldn't wear shorts because it violates adult etiquette." (I've made that argument repeatedly.) This does not apply to barbecues, but I think it applies on airplanes. It may be unfair, but there's an age-related aspect to this. A guy in his 20s can get away with something that looks awful on a guy in his 50s. For example, the reversed baseball cap looks tacky on a older guy, as do overly youthful shorts. Flipflops always look awful on a man in a public place, and again, they look worse on an older guy. An older guy IMO should look more like a gentleman. When I saw the picture, I thought it looked gross because the guy was old. It's like seeing a leathery old woman wearing a skimpy outfit that might look OK on a college student.

    But this involves taste, and people disagree. I'd never advocate laws, but when I'm flying I try to look as professional as I can.
    10.4.2007 2:00am
    Sean Kinsell (mail) (www):
    I see your point, Eric, though my legs were as furry as that guy's when I was 23, so I suppose I might have come in for opprobrium anyway. (I don't wear shorts except at the beach or in the mountains myself, so it wouldn't have come up. Basic respect for other passengers on airplanes doesn't seem to me to require more than clean jeans and a shirt without anything unseemly written across the chest, though I can see why people who remember flying before deregulation might preserve the customs of that time.)
    10.4.2007 11:05am

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